abhijitp
02-15 02:10 PM
Ah, just one more... takes me to 153... hopefully I will get some more this afternoon.
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desi3933
07-19 05:14 PM
Hi,
1. I am on L1 with current company A(with current i-94 expiring in Nov 2007). I got my H1 approval this year from consultant B and they got the I-797B. This document shows the validity from Nov 2007-2010. But I have heard people get something called I-797A which has a new I-94 attached to it and in my case it is not.
Here are my questions.
1. Can I start working for consultant B from Oct 1.(after quitting the company A with L1).?
2. What should I do since I have current I-94 only till Nov 15th 2007 and if I ask my current company A to extend it they wont do because I want to leave them as early as possible before Oct 1st.
3. Can my consultant file for the change of STATUS from L1 to H1B(the approval for which I have already received from USCIS) and then in that case it will have new I-94 attached.
4. Another suggestions what should I be doing so that I can start working on H1 after Oct1st here and then whenever I go back to India, after 4 or 5 months I will have the Visa stamped.
Thanks in advance.
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Not a legal advice.
1. I am on L1 with current company A(with current i-94 expiring in Nov 2007). I got my H1 approval this year from consultant B and they got the I-797B. This document shows the validity from Nov 2007-2010. But I have heard people get something called I-797A which has a new I-94 attached to it and in my case it is not.
Here are my questions.
1. Can I start working for consultant B from Oct 1.(after quitting the company A with L1).?
2. What should I do since I have current I-94 only till Nov 15th 2007 and if I ask my current company A to extend it they wont do because I want to leave them as early as possible before Oct 1st.
3. Can my consultant file for the change of STATUS from L1 to H1B(the approval for which I have already received from USCIS) and then in that case it will have new I-94 attached.
4. Another suggestions what should I be doing so that I can start working on H1 after Oct1st here and then whenever I go back to India, after 4 or 5 months I will have the Visa stamped.
Thanks in advance.
Re-enter USA with H1 visa stamp.
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sanjay
09-29 10:55 AM
On the contrary Air India is one of the best airlines now and I fly air India all the time .
You might not find young women in tight skirts as the cabin crew but the service of the middle aged Air-India crew is very good.
They have spanking new 777's with wide seats and latest entertainment systems. Tickets are real cheap and round trip to India can be as low as $650 to $700 with taxes per person . When flights are empty I can streach on 3 seats and sleep . JFK to Mumbai nonstop is only 13 hours , sometimes done in 12 also , which is what I spend sometimes when I travel from NYC to LA . On the contrary if you go through Europe it takes like 26 hours and immigration and all the hassle in London/Frankfurt and unecessary waste of time .Air India meals are Indian and not sphagetti and pasta like the western airlines( not to hurt the sentiments of the pasta , spagetti lovers ).
The staff is generous and many times I have been offerred multiple meals on the airline when they see that a person my size ( 6' 1) has to survive on a small morsel like that . :D. Drinks when asked are served generously.
The staff is very good and polite and last but not the least , it is my national airline .
Off course the airline has been affected because of some mismanagement and I consider the Indian government to be responsible for the same not the airline staff , cabin crew and pilots .
Agreed 100% with you. I had traveled to India by British Airways, Cathay pacific, Gulf and Air India ( thrice ) and I can say the best service is from AI compared to all others. I had once traveled with BA with my 1 year old son and had some horrific experience with them. Again had to travel when he is 1 year 7 months old in Air India. Experience with AI was many times better compared to BA. Being all hostess are Indian they understand and take things personally to help you out of situation where as ALL other airlines go by rules and had no sympathy to its passenger problems.
AIR INDIA ROCKS.
You might not find young women in tight skirts as the cabin crew but the service of the middle aged Air-India crew is very good.
They have spanking new 777's with wide seats and latest entertainment systems. Tickets are real cheap and round trip to India can be as low as $650 to $700 with taxes per person . When flights are empty I can streach on 3 seats and sleep . JFK to Mumbai nonstop is only 13 hours , sometimes done in 12 also , which is what I spend sometimes when I travel from NYC to LA . On the contrary if you go through Europe it takes like 26 hours and immigration and all the hassle in London/Frankfurt and unecessary waste of time .Air India meals are Indian and not sphagetti and pasta like the western airlines( not to hurt the sentiments of the pasta , spagetti lovers ).
The staff is generous and many times I have been offerred multiple meals on the airline when they see that a person my size ( 6' 1) has to survive on a small morsel like that . :D. Drinks when asked are served generously.
The staff is very good and polite and last but not the least , it is my national airline .
Off course the airline has been affected because of some mismanagement and I consider the Indian government to be responsible for the same not the airline staff , cabin crew and pilots .
Agreed 100% with you. I had traveled to India by British Airways, Cathay pacific, Gulf and Air India ( thrice ) and I can say the best service is from AI compared to all others. I had once traveled with BA with my 1 year old son and had some horrific experience with them. Again had to travel when he is 1 year 7 months old in Air India. Experience with AI was many times better compared to BA. Being all hostess are Indian they understand and take things personally to help you out of situation where as ALL other airlines go by rules and had no sympathy to its passenger problems.
AIR INDIA ROCKS.
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wizpal
07-02 09:34 AM
Rep. Smith hasn't made a stand on these bills yet and his support is instrumental. If you already called him..make follow up calls. More calls is always better.
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kumarc123
07-02 10:40 AM
Hello All,
I called again, took me less than 2 minutes. To all the people who have already made these calls, please call again and maybe address yourself as your spouse's name, or friends name. The point here is volume.
To all those who haven't called shame to all of you, please return back to India as your stall actions are bringing a disgrace to our country.
The Senator has not made any stand on this issue yet, it is imperative for all of us to call, please call.
United we stand , United we win
I called again, took me less than 2 minutes. To all the people who have already made these calls, please call again and maybe address yourself as your spouse's name, or friends name. The point here is volume.
To all those who haven't called shame to all of you, please return back to India as your stall actions are bringing a disgrace to our country.
The Senator has not made any stand on this issue yet, it is imperative for all of us to call, please call.
United we stand , United we win
netnerd
07-17 03:01 PM
Does this attorney approachable ? Does he answer your phone calls ?
Does he promptly reply to your emails ? Does he clarify your doubts ?
Do you deal with him directly or does your company rep speak for you ?
How is his fees ? Is he expensive or affordable ?
I highly recommend for all of the reasons I have posted earlier on this page (pg 5) and 1 more:
Andrew himself is an immigrant from UK - he went to law school in Florida and had to endure the painful green card process himself.
He is very responsive to both phone calls and emails.
He will deal with you directly or with your company - any way you wish.
And most of all he is thoroughly professional - but extremely affordable - he only charged me+family total $1600 for entire GC processing starting from PERM --> I-140 --> I-485/EAD/AP (for me and my wife).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
netnerd
Does he promptly reply to your emails ? Does he clarify your doubts ?
Do you deal with him directly or does your company rep speak for you ?
How is his fees ? Is he expensive or affordable ?
I highly recommend for all of the reasons I have posted earlier on this page (pg 5) and 1 more:
Andrew himself is an immigrant from UK - he went to law school in Florida and had to endure the painful green card process himself.
He is very responsive to both phone calls and emails.
He will deal with you directly or with your company - any way you wish.
And most of all he is thoroughly professional - but extremely affordable - he only charged me+family total $1600 for entire GC processing starting from PERM --> I-140 --> I-485/EAD/AP (for me and my wife).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
netnerd
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jbr
04-29 02:23 PM
Just contributed another $100. Thanks to IV for their efforts.
Receipt ID: 4X2979969P459744H
Receipt ID: 4X2979969P459744H
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snathan
03-28 02:33 PM
Mr. snathan, what is your PD or you already got GC.
May I know how its related here...I dont want to start another Donor vs Non-Donor fight.:p
May I know how its related here...I dont want to start another Donor vs Non-Donor fight.:p
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vgayalu
07-12 01:08 PM
Is there any improvement related to HR5477 bill in house?
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BharatPremi
03-14 11:15 AM
Yeah there are tons of people who got their GCs with PD 03, but there are tons more waiting in 02 to get their GCs.
Sure there may still be 2002 files waiting but it is definately not a GREAT number. Here are three logical bullets to conslude that.
- Many people with 2000/1/2 dates have already left USA - Tired: Could not
take the delay:Found good oppertunity back home or elsewhere
- Black labor market played a part to shift a considerable load either to EB2 or
PD date from 1999/2000 and thus many people preferred that path either
stuck in EB2 or have already got their GC
The only thing we can be unsure about stuck in NC with those early PDs.
Having said this, it is ofcourse impossible to predict perfect chain of future flow, I see hope for EB3-I in this year, particularly last quarter at least for the people having 2004-Mid and before PDs.
Sure there may still be 2002 files waiting but it is definately not a GREAT number. Here are three logical bullets to conslude that.
- Many people with 2000/1/2 dates have already left USA - Tired: Could not
take the delay:Found good oppertunity back home or elsewhere
- Black labor market played a part to shift a considerable load either to EB2 or
PD date from 1999/2000 and thus many people preferred that path either
stuck in EB2 or have already got their GC
The only thing we can be unsure about stuck in NC with those early PDs.
Having said this, it is ofcourse impossible to predict perfect chain of future flow, I see hope for EB3-I in this year, particularly last quarter at least for the people having 2004-Mid and before PDs.
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alterego
03-23 06:55 PM
I disagree that this is a plan at the government level to make EB immigration on par with family based immigration.
Diversity is a cornerstone of the US immigration policy. It is present in both the main types of US immigration. You can argue about its merits and demerits, however when major immigration reform was debated and legislated in the 60s, diversity was set as a basis. The Diversity visa lottery speaks to this.
The H1b visa(with its absent country quotas), has now come into collision with an EB system which has these quotas. That is why we are seeing this mess.
Diversity is a cornerstone of the US immigration policy. It is present in both the main types of US immigration. You can argue about its merits and demerits, however when major immigration reform was debated and legislated in the 60s, diversity was set as a basis. The Diversity visa lottery speaks to this.
The H1b visa(with its absent country quotas), has now come into collision with an EB system which has these quotas. That is why we are seeing this mess.
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hebbar77
04-10 02:16 AM
oh ya, so you have a problem with donor status? Why don't you start with your cable company and ask them why do they charge you any money? Why don't you ask the gas station, that why do they charge you for the gas? Why don't you argue with the cashier at Walmart about the bill you have to pay if you want something? Its easy to be dismissive of others. Its even easier to fault others and argue that just because no one shared the information, so I have license to throw stones at others. But being an Eb2 highly skilled humanity savior personality that you are, why do you need a 3rd class Eb3 programmer to show you that it cost money to get things done. Why can't you see that in last 8 months this nation was going under a presidential election and nothing got done on any issue, other than bailouts and budget? Why can't you see that nothing has happened in the Congress on immigration for any other group? Why can't an highly skilled highly educated chanakya of this planet not see that it is ok for everyone to praise some immigration lawyers who are known to deliberately delay green card application, but its not ok to ridicule someone sincerely working to fix my issue? Why is it ok for me to track my application all day and not complain even once when some tracker website is asking for money to have my question from a lawyer, but will not leave any stone unturned to put the "burden of proof" of innocence on someone sincerely working to stand-up for me because I am too coward to stand-up for myself?
Let me help you understand it because it will be too much for your eb2 species brain to understand. Simple answer - You cannot see past the things that you cannot understand. Just go and ask Walmart cashier as to why he/she is charging you money for the things you want? Maybe that will help.
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reading above posts it reminds me what I read :
Lot of junk sold in US...
People have gotten used to buying things that have no value. Wherever donation boxes are putup or beggers stand , people put money. Come on one does not need to pay because a other guy is asking.
So its upto the individuals to donate. Personally I dont feel one can do much to accelerate the GC process. If you read the history you can comeup with a list of things that changed the way things got done in US!!
Have a good one guys.
Let me help you understand it because it will be too much for your eb2 species brain to understand. Simple answer - You cannot see past the things that you cannot understand. Just go and ask Walmart cashier as to why he/she is charging you money for the things you want? Maybe that will help.
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reading above posts it reminds me what I read :
Lot of junk sold in US...
People have gotten used to buying things that have no value. Wherever donation boxes are putup or beggers stand , people put money. Come on one does not need to pay because a other guy is asking.
So its upto the individuals to donate. Personally I dont feel one can do much to accelerate the GC process. If you read the history you can comeup with a list of things that changed the way things got done in US!!
Have a good one guys.
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snathan
02-09 11:01 PM
Hello ... I m responding to a some one who dis-respected my fellow citizens . So what do you say English speaking guys are great IT professionals ? To work on computers you need brian and understand bits and bytes not english .
I think you got my message wrong all I m saying is you dont have to be a great english communicator to qualify for EB2 , unless you are applying as professor .
In 70s most of the towns having only local language schools and stuided in local language schools , thay may be part of reason why some of them dont communicate well ..That doesnt mean they can not work on computers ...
Well thats our opinion/preception or even truth. If you need to work in the US, you need to be good in english as its their national laungage.
I am giving this one for example...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7317794.stm
So even if you are a greate talent and could not speak even a word in english forget about coming to US.
I think you got my message wrong all I m saying is you dont have to be a great english communicator to qualify for EB2 , unless you are applying as professor .
In 70s most of the towns having only local language schools and stuided in local language schools , thay may be part of reason why some of them dont communicate well ..That doesnt mean they can not work on computers ...
Well thats our opinion/preception or even truth. If you need to work in the US, you need to be good in english as its their national laungage.
I am giving this one for example...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7317794.stm
So even if you are a greate talent and could not speak even a word in english forget about coming to US.
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AuntyDan
06-19 07:49 PM
The problem is quota of 90,000 visas is available for petitions filed before October 1st 2007. MBS will not start until October 1st 2008 (because of 270 days gap).
So assuming this is all correct and comes to pass what will EB GC applicants do from the date this is decreed to take effect (May 15th, June 19th October 1st etc.) until October 2008? Will there just be no applications allowed for over a year and existing applications made past the cut-off date get scrapped?
So assuming this is all correct and comes to pass what will EB GC applicants do from the date this is decreed to take effect (May 15th, June 19th October 1st etc.) until October 2008? Will there just be no applications allowed for over a year and existing applications made past the cut-off date get scrapped?
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LostInGCProcess
08-20 07:47 PM
Hi All,
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
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Mani
07-15 10:13 AM
Just based on the definition given by DOL I decided Level III and Level IV to be EB2. Besides I am EB2 and my wage level is Level IV. I agree it is hard to conclude the cat based on wage level, I saw there were some Senior welders in Level III as well as Vice presidents of the companies. Quite a contradiction isn't it!!
I think Level indicates the Step within the existing Job Title. For example, a Senior Programmer Analyst could have a level 2 or 3 but an Entry level Project Manager could have a level 1 or 2. I think one would have to use a combination of Level and SOC Code.
I think Level indicates the Step within the existing Job Title. For example, a Senior Programmer Analyst could have a level 2 or 3 but an Entry level Project Manager could have a level 1 or 2. I think one would have to use a combination of Level and SOC Code.
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vinabath
03-21 03:07 PM
I am not insecure but I AM frustrated at your arrogance.
Trust me buddy I had the same feeling when President Bush said that he is on top of things when he was talking about recession.
Trust me buddy I had the same feeling when President Bush said that he is on top of things when he was talking about recession.
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justice4all
07-21 09:04 PM
Hi All,
Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.
Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?
I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.
I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.
One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?
So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:
- Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
- Get the support of IV core team for this
- If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
- Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
- Raise some money towards this cause
So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!
Hello Risker,
After going through all postings, it is wise to consider the following actions in order:
1. Contact the IV core team and tell our problem. Ask their input about what we can do and whom we need to contact. They may let us in correct direction.
2. In the meantime, Get the details of peoples whose case are still in backlog centre.
3. Finally, nothing works and no one help us, file a lawsuit. (As I dont know anything about the lawsuit here, many of them mentioned that the lawsuit should be done by the employer and there is more possibility of loosing.. We should not lose heart on that. In the suit, we need to ask them to make it current and keep the same filing fees until 30 Sep 07)
P.S. As one of the posting mentioned, we may also consider waiting till Sep 07 before filing lawsuit. Because DOL promised to clear all cases before 30 Sep 07. If they dont then our case become more stronger. Till then we need to contact concerned people (like IV, congressman etc) and collect all infromation.
Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.
Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?
I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.
I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.
One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?
So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:
- Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
- Get the support of IV core team for this
- If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
- Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
- Raise some money towards this cause
So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!
Hello Risker,
After going through all postings, it is wise to consider the following actions in order:
1. Contact the IV core team and tell our problem. Ask their input about what we can do and whom we need to contact. They may let us in correct direction.
2. In the meantime, Get the details of peoples whose case are still in backlog centre.
3. Finally, nothing works and no one help us, file a lawsuit. (As I dont know anything about the lawsuit here, many of them mentioned that the lawsuit should be done by the employer and there is more possibility of loosing.. We should not lose heart on that. In the suit, we need to ask them to make it current and keep the same filing fees until 30 Sep 07)
P.S. As one of the posting mentioned, we may also consider waiting till Sep 07 before filing lawsuit. Because DOL promised to clear all cases before 30 Sep 07. If they dont then our case become more stronger. Till then we need to contact concerned people (like IV, congressman etc) and collect all infromation.
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Marphad
04-10 08:05 AM
My greatest friend buddyinsfo, where were you for so long. I missed you all this time. How are things going man. How r the kids doing? I miss you on this forum buddy, you got to show up often, please.
You jerk, EVERY non profit need resources to "DO" stuff. EVERY non-profit has to have a revenue stream of some sort. Just because its a "non-profit" doesn't mean that everyone will give or do stuff free for a non-profit. Is that so difficult to understand for a "highly educated"/"highly skilled" immigrant such as yourself? The bandwidth you used to write your post for the audience of the world wide web, that was paid for by my hard earned $$$$. You want this group of folks to do stuff but you don't want to part with a dime. Nice.
But hey, who cares, lets get back to our favorite topic - complain about someone about something, shall we. Lets blame someone and vent out my frustration before I go to bed. If nothing else, it will be therapeutic. Idiot.
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Is this the language 2 civilized people use to discuss or debate. When 2 people debate, both believe other is not right - thats why its called discussion or debate. Doesn't mean we need to use extreme or bad words.
You jerk, EVERY non profit need resources to "DO" stuff. EVERY non-profit has to have a revenue stream of some sort. Just because its a "non-profit" doesn't mean that everyone will give or do stuff free for a non-profit. Is that so difficult to understand for a "highly educated"/"highly skilled" immigrant such as yourself? The bandwidth you used to write your post for the audience of the world wide web, that was paid for by my hard earned $$$$. You want this group of folks to do stuff but you don't want to part with a dime. Nice.
But hey, who cares, lets get back to our favorite topic - complain about someone about something, shall we. Lets blame someone and vent out my frustration before I go to bed. If nothing else, it will be therapeutic. Idiot.
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Is this the language 2 civilized people use to discuss or debate. When 2 people debate, both believe other is not right - thats why its called discussion or debate. Doesn't mean we need to use extreme or bad words.
H4_losing_hope
02-26 10:53 PM
I will be collecting some letters on Pioneer this weekend. Hopefully I can raise so.cal count from 34.
Good luck santb1975! :)
Good luck santb1975! :)
Pandi
05-28 09:11 AM
I have made small contribution of $50/-. Thanks to the fellow IV members on their efforts to make this a success :)
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