eb3retro
08-06 08:02 AM
whats ur country of chargeability? pls update that in your profile.
and the story unfolds....
I got biometrics notice for an appointment in the past :mad::mad::mad:
So, I made copies of the notice and put together cover leter and asked to be rescheduled for Sep.
Will call next week to follow up. In the meantime I noticed soft LUD on the date of my supposed biometrics....but the online message still says document production ordered....
Total chaos guys....:mad:
and the story unfolds....
I got biometrics notice for an appointment in the past :mad::mad::mad:
So, I made copies of the notice and put together cover leter and asked to be rescheduled for Sep.
Will call next week to follow up. In the meantime I noticed soft LUD on the date of my supposed biometrics....but the online message still says document production ordered....
Total chaos guys....:mad:
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Macaca
09-20 11:52 AM
People in neighbouring states of DC did not make it , you think they will make it all the way to west coast! very doubtful!!
I had lawmaker apointment (in Rayburn building across the street from where the rally ended) after the rally. There were 10 Indians giggling at me. At first I thought they attended the rally. I was walking in their direction when their looks got weird and I realized they did not attend the rally!
I had lawmaker apointment (in Rayburn building across the street from where the rally ended) after the rally. There were 10 Indians giggling at me. At first I thought they attended the rally. I was walking in their direction when their looks got weird and I realized they did not attend the rally!
yabadaba
03-05 02:42 PM
needhelp...maybe instead of country of chargeability we should ask for grouping by country of birth; this is an actual field required in the I-485 form.
You are right about priority date. It is not a field available in the 485 form. in the 485 form we reference the approved I-140, which is the only place where your see the "Priority Date" field.
You are right about priority date. It is not a field available in the 485 form. in the 485 form we reference the approved I-140, which is the only place where your see the "Priority Date" field.
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gagbag
06-14 12:10 PM
My hearty congratulations to all the "LEGAL" workers who can file the 485 on July 1. Also to those who now have some hope in "LEGAL" process.
I consider this movement as a lottery to people who came here legally and had the patience to go through the painstaking process.
Moving on I think we need to understand the following aspects:
1. Implication on H1 B requirement / extension during this process
2. Impact on Travel to home country during this process
3. Processing timeline of recurring EAD and Green Card
My views are that due to enormous amount of applications coming in this and next month 485 department will be over allocated and we will certainly see a back log moving from "priority dates" to actually getting the EAD and other docs. So it might actaully result in a year - year long wait just for getting EAD.
I am not also clear on when can travel back and forth to India with 485 pending.Finally do I need H1 B when I have EAD or not.
Hope this forum has many people with these questions now.
But again this is huge day for immigrants especially Indians as we were the most backlogged in the whole world. Make sure you book medical appointments as there going to be a bombadment for these requests.
Gagan:D :)
I consider this movement as a lottery to people who came here legally and had the patience to go through the painstaking process.
Moving on I think we need to understand the following aspects:
1. Implication on H1 B requirement / extension during this process
2. Impact on Travel to home country during this process
3. Processing timeline of recurring EAD and Green Card
My views are that due to enormous amount of applications coming in this and next month 485 department will be over allocated and we will certainly see a back log moving from "priority dates" to actually getting the EAD and other docs. So it might actaully result in a year - year long wait just for getting EAD.
I am not also clear on when can travel back and forth to India with 485 pending.Finally do I need H1 B when I have EAD or not.
Hope this forum has many people with these questions now.
But again this is huge day for immigrants especially Indians as we were the most backlogged in the whole world. Make sure you book medical appointments as there going to be a bombadment for these requests.
Gagan:D :)
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Jaime
09-13 01:52 PM
Hello guys! Well said on this thread, you have all day today and tomorrow to make up your mind and attend. Make your choice a resounding YES! If you live in DC or nearby states you shouldn't even be thinking about it, the decision is: YES!!!! (just come! trust us, you will see this was the best choice, and you will thank yourself you attended!!!!)
YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT LEAST ONCE N YOUR LIFE! YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SAY "I WAS THERE"! WHY NOT ALSO MAKE HISTORY!!!! TOGETHER WE CAN!!!!! JUST COME!!!!!
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485Mbe4001
06-26 12:37 PM
I am an EB 3 with a PD of 2002 who has watched people substitute and get ahead, use creative lawyers and get GC's, i am stuck and will be stuck for a long time. My job is analytical so i have a habit of analyzing things. I am one of those who feel that the July fiasco created a mess for people who were already waiting, i also feel that the ad hoc FBI name check fix by USCIS screwed the large number of people who had cleared NC after the July bulletin (and missed that bus in the process). I am dealing with the hand that I was dealt.
I don’t have any animosity against the guys who benefitted by the above changes and have participated in all the phone campaigns, and will do so in the future. After so many years i feel that getting the GC is less of an issue for me (i never had problems in my home country, the only reason for waiting is that we have waited so long in the queue, why leave the queue now...sounds lame, but it’s the gods honest truth.)
I have seen many examples of each EB group to its own, realize this, we are all in this together and the only way of getting something done is doing something yourself. Do we have a choice..probably not..will desis be desis(or non desis for that matter)..yes most of them will be..it is what it is.
I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, ofcourse)? What are they fighting for?
I don’t have any animosity against the guys who benefitted by the above changes and have participated in all the phone campaigns, and will do so in the future. After so many years i feel that getting the GC is less of an issue for me (i never had problems in my home country, the only reason for waiting is that we have waited so long in the queue, why leave the queue now...sounds lame, but it’s the gods honest truth.)
I have seen many examples of each EB group to its own, realize this, we are all in this together and the only way of getting something done is doing something yourself. Do we have a choice..probably not..will desis be desis(or non desis for that matter)..yes most of them will be..it is what it is.
I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, ofcourse)? What are they fighting for?
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tikka
06-13 07:35 PM
for posting the congrats sign on the main page!!
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BornConfused
07-03 03:37 PM
Don't waste time by calling National Call service center. They all are dumb !! They don't know anything. They just read the on line status of our case, which 8 year kid can do.
I asked it as a general question the last 2 times I called. And you're right, they do seem quite clueless for the most part. God only knows.
I asked it as a general question the last 2 times I called. And you're right, they do seem quite clueless for the most part. God only knows.
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girish.sh
06-14 09:11 PM
Hi Company A has file for H1B and it got stamped. I came to USA last week and did not join them as they were not able to provide me job and were asking me to delay my trip to USA. Now last week monday they said they will terminate my visa and report to USCIS. My new employer has yet not applied for H1B transfer. So i wanted to know how much time do i have left to do it. Suppose Company A filed for visa cancellation on 11th June, Monday. Please let me know if there would be any problem in filing for H1B transfer now as Company A has filed for cancellation before i file for H1B Transfer.
I would appreciate a detiled reply.
Thanks,
Girish
I would appreciate a detiled reply.
Thanks,
Girish
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abracadabra102
09-12 12:12 PM
McCain was always supportive of H1B and EB Green Card issues whereas Obama is not very supportive and would relegate the decision to his buddy senator from IL, Dick Durbin who sponsored the strongly anti-H1B Durbin-Grassely Act
I second this opinion. Republicans in general and John McCain in particular are in favor of EB immigration (going by their actions). Dems tend to be pro-labor and anti-immigration.
I second this opinion. Republicans in general and John McCain in particular are in favor of EB immigration (going by their actions). Dems tend to be pro-labor and anti-immigration.
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supers789
08-20 08:26 PM
Fragomen applied for my PERM application last year. The rule is - either advertisement start date or end date should fall in "wage survey duration of 3 months". They didn't follow that. And my PERM got denied. Immediately they applied for my PERM. And it's stuck in Audit. And not to mention, even though it was their mistake, they took fees from employer for filing 2nd PERM.. saying DOL wasn's clear about this rule, and never rejected any application before for this reason.. So its not their mistake!!
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FinalGC
10-08 08:16 AM
Can somebody post the exact logistics (location address, time etc....). I would love to come, so put my name under MAYBE category. If in the last minute my plans get changed (not in my control unfortunately), I will come on my own from Lansing......
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NolaIndian32
11-10 05:13 PM
Are we/employees really supposed to know all the steps involved in the approval of GC process (Perm, 140/EAD/485 etc.)?
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don�t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc�.they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don�t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I highly doubt the HR dept of an organization is filing labor certs, I-140s and I-485s without the assistance of immigration attorneys whether in-house or outside counsel. I work for one of the largest hospital chains n the US, and our HR offices use external counsel for immigration matters.
-Nola
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don�t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc�.they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don�t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I highly doubt the HR dept of an organization is filing labor certs, I-140s and I-485s without the assistance of immigration attorneys whether in-house or outside counsel. I work for one of the largest hospital chains n the US, and our HR offices use external counsel for immigration matters.
-Nola
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GCScrewed
08-22 11:36 AM
Certainly Canada is much much better option. Wish people had talked about it 10 years ago. So for those who just came to America or those who are deciding where to go to work or to school, Canada should be the first choice. You will actually have more flexibility being a Canadian than American.
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delhiguy79
07-23 01:37 PM
I called the USCIS just now, and they told me that they can tell the receipt number to ONLY my attorney or my employer, provided its already in the system. I filed on July 5 ( NSC), and hasn't got the receipt number yet. There is only one person in my company to handle hundreds of GCs, and the person is very busy processing all these I-485s, and will not pick the phone for any enquiries, no reply for emails etc. so i am stuck! so i dont know whether they encashed the check or not!
if u say u r the employer, then wat questions do they ask to verify that u r employer. i think they ll ask the questions from i-140 form only.
if u say u r the employer, then wat questions do they ask to verify that u r employer. i think they ll ask the questions from i-140 form only.
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Dakota Newfie
03-21 04:16 PM
Not entirely correct. When as you say this country treats all Employment based immigrants equally, why set quotas, why distinguish between EB1, EB2 EB3 etc.
The point is there are rules and they tend to favor certain applicants over others in the queue. More education generally does mean more skill. It does not always mean more pay, but this country has decided to use education and work experience as the criterion for EB category allocation.
How can you say all nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the USA. That is patently false and you know it. Now you can defend it and say it is the US right to set its rules the way it wishes, and I can respect that, but to say it is equal opportunity is wrong.
What I have said all along is that EB immigration is to redound to the benefit of US EMPLOYERS not you or me. That is why the rules were skewed so much in their favor. Now, we agree there has been some abuse in this system, by those this system was meant to help, however its purpose remains intact. The rest of the rules are secondary to this intent, but nevertheless important.
The USCIS/DOS set quotas for visa numbers because the United States does not want to be overwhelmed with immigrants. And these quotas are spread evenly through all nations and ethnic backgrounds. Considering the populations of the "oversubscribed" nations, this is justified. I can see where the immigrants from these nations feel "discriminated against" in the fact that they receive a smaller percentage (NOT NUMBER) of visas per capita than ROW countries. This does not make the system unfair. And if you think that certain countries get special treatment, think again; there are plenty of people in ROW (like me) who have been waiting for years as well!
The point is there are rules and they tend to favor certain applicants over others in the queue. More education generally does mean more skill. It does not always mean more pay, but this country has decided to use education and work experience as the criterion for EB category allocation.
How can you say all nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the USA. That is patently false and you know it. Now you can defend it and say it is the US right to set its rules the way it wishes, and I can respect that, but to say it is equal opportunity is wrong.
What I have said all along is that EB immigration is to redound to the benefit of US EMPLOYERS not you or me. That is why the rules were skewed so much in their favor. Now, we agree there has been some abuse in this system, by those this system was meant to help, however its purpose remains intact. The rest of the rules are secondary to this intent, but nevertheless important.
The USCIS/DOS set quotas for visa numbers because the United States does not want to be overwhelmed with immigrants. And these quotas are spread evenly through all nations and ethnic backgrounds. Considering the populations of the "oversubscribed" nations, this is justified. I can see where the immigrants from these nations feel "discriminated against" in the fact that they receive a smaller percentage (NOT NUMBER) of visas per capita than ROW countries. This does not make the system unfair. And if you think that certain countries get special treatment, think again; there are plenty of people in ROW (like me) who have been waiting for years as well!
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02-11 11:21 PM
anyways - nice to hear a good speech especially seeing face on video. thanks logiclife for your effort and taking your time make this video for those who doesnt understand other than accusing and finger-pointing. good night.
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admin
03-17 03:51 PM
Hi,
Based on the summary if you re-look at the student visa section of Bill Frist's bill
`(2) STUDENT VISAS- Notwithstanding the requirement under paragraph (1)(C), an alien may file an application for adjustment of status under this section if--
`(A) the alien has been issued a visa or otherwise provided nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv), or would have qualified for such nonimmigrant status if section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv) had been enacted before such alien's graduation;
`(B) the alien has earned an advanced degree in the sciences, technology, engineering, or mathematics;
`(C) the alien is the beneficiary of a petition filed under subparagraph (E) or (F) of section 204(a)(1); and
`(D) a fee of $1,000 is remitted to the Secretary on behalf of the alien.
`(3) LIMITATION- An application for adjustment of status filed under this section may not be approved until an immigrant visa number becomes available.'.
What this really means is a masters student can adjust to immigrant visa status although his visa application will get approved only when the visa is available. If i have understood this correctly this means that this is similar to the S-1932 provision wherein you can adjust your status although approval will happen only when immigrant visa is available.(provided one is masters)
Or have i got this wrong?
Comments? If i am interpreting this correctly it is another big boost for people who have either not worked 3 yrs as yet on H1B or have a masters degree unrelated to the profession they are working in.
piyushpan,
Exactly my reactions too. In the section by section analysis posted on Frist's website - http://frist.senate.gov/_files/031706section.pdf it does look like it is only for those who did their masters in the US though. So I-485 and consequently EAD will not be a problem for those of you.
However if you do not have 3 years of experience in a related field, you will be subject to the quota and hence you will have to wait for the priority date to become current to get you I-485 approved though.
Based on the summary if you re-look at the student visa section of Bill Frist's bill
`(2) STUDENT VISAS- Notwithstanding the requirement under paragraph (1)(C), an alien may file an application for adjustment of status under this section if--
`(A) the alien has been issued a visa or otherwise provided nonimmigrant status under section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv), or would have qualified for such nonimmigrant status if section 101(a)(15)(F)(iv) had been enacted before such alien's graduation;
`(B) the alien has earned an advanced degree in the sciences, technology, engineering, or mathematics;
`(C) the alien is the beneficiary of a petition filed under subparagraph (E) or (F) of section 204(a)(1); and
`(D) a fee of $1,000 is remitted to the Secretary on behalf of the alien.
`(3) LIMITATION- An application for adjustment of status filed under this section may not be approved until an immigrant visa number becomes available.'.
What this really means is a masters student can adjust to immigrant visa status although his visa application will get approved only when the visa is available. If i have understood this correctly this means that this is similar to the S-1932 provision wherein you can adjust your status although approval will happen only when immigrant visa is available.(provided one is masters)
Or have i got this wrong?
Comments? If i am interpreting this correctly it is another big boost for people who have either not worked 3 yrs as yet on H1B or have a masters degree unrelated to the profession they are working in.
piyushpan,
Exactly my reactions too. In the section by section analysis posted on Frist's website - http://frist.senate.gov/_files/031706section.pdf it does look like it is only for those who did their masters in the US though. So I-485 and consequently EAD will not be a problem for those of you.
However if you do not have 3 years of experience in a related field, you will be subject to the quota and hence you will have to wait for the priority date to become current to get you I-485 approved though.
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mhathi
05-22 01:52 PM
Thank you for writing to me regarding our country's immigration system.
Our nation's immigration and border security system is broken and must be fixed. We must require illegal immigrants to step forward and become legal and we must better secure our borders. We must restore the rule of law and enhance security at our borders. The Congress and the President must work together to reform our laws. We also must use the full force of the law against employers who hire illegal immigrants.
I support changes to the law that will require illegal immigrants to become legal. They must pay taxes, learn English, and pass criminal background checks. This process won't be easy or quick, but it will be fair and practical. Individuals who came to this country illegally will be bumped to the back of the line behind those who waited to come to this country legally. And illegal immigrants with a criminal record would be deported. Those who refuse to register and meet these conditions also should be deported.
To secure our borders, the government should require the use of a biometric entry-exit system for all land borders, so that we have an accurate record of who is entering and leaving the United States. We should create a "smart" enforcement regime which will produce more efficient inspections and screenings, and allow us to target and tailor our limited resources to combat illegal smuggling of people and contraband. I supported recent appropriations that provided $1.6 billion for border security fencing, infrastructure and technology, and facility construction, as well as the hiring of 3,000 new Border Patrol agents.
To meet the needs of our workforce and promote family reunification, we should set in place realistic immigration numbers and policies, and clear the backlog of legal visas, green card legal permit resident and citizenship applications. Senator Feinstein has introduced the "Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits and Security Act", S. 1038, in order to provide for new blue card visas and modify the H-2A program. Senator Mikulski has introduced the "Save our Small and Seasonal Businesses Act", S. 388, to extend the annual cap exemption for returning H-2B workers. While these two bills address key issues in the immigration debate, a comprehensive approach is the only way to adequately deal with this issue.
We can no longer ignore corporations who are hiring and exploiting illegal workers. This practice takes jobs away from Americans and depresses wages for everyone. These unlawful companies must be prosecuted and face stiff criminal and civil penalties. We need smart policies like improved border patrols, full enforcement of our laws, and requiring illegal immigrants to become legal.
The status quo is not working. Allowing 12 million to hide in the shadows and live in this country illegally is unacceptable. Our system must be fixed. Again, thank you for writing to me regarding this important issue. If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
Our nation's immigration and border security system is broken and must be fixed. We must require illegal immigrants to step forward and become legal and we must better secure our borders. We must restore the rule of law and enhance security at our borders. The Congress and the President must work together to reform our laws. We also must use the full force of the law against employers who hire illegal immigrants.
I support changes to the law that will require illegal immigrants to become legal. They must pay taxes, learn English, and pass criminal background checks. This process won't be easy or quick, but it will be fair and practical. Individuals who came to this country illegally will be bumped to the back of the line behind those who waited to come to this country legally. And illegal immigrants with a criminal record would be deported. Those who refuse to register and meet these conditions also should be deported.
To secure our borders, the government should require the use of a biometric entry-exit system for all land borders, so that we have an accurate record of who is entering and leaving the United States. We should create a "smart" enforcement regime which will produce more efficient inspections and screenings, and allow us to target and tailor our limited resources to combat illegal smuggling of people and contraband. I supported recent appropriations that provided $1.6 billion for border security fencing, infrastructure and technology, and facility construction, as well as the hiring of 3,000 new Border Patrol agents.
To meet the needs of our workforce and promote family reunification, we should set in place realistic immigration numbers and policies, and clear the backlog of legal visas, green card legal permit resident and citizenship applications. Senator Feinstein has introduced the "Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits and Security Act", S. 1038, in order to provide for new blue card visas and modify the H-2A program. Senator Mikulski has introduced the "Save our Small and Seasonal Businesses Act", S. 388, to extend the annual cap exemption for returning H-2B workers. While these two bills address key issues in the immigration debate, a comprehensive approach is the only way to adequately deal with this issue.
We can no longer ignore corporations who are hiring and exploiting illegal workers. This practice takes jobs away from Americans and depresses wages for everyone. These unlawful companies must be prosecuted and face stiff criminal and civil penalties. We need smart policies like improved border patrols, full enforcement of our laws, and requiring illegal immigrants to become legal.
The status quo is not working. Allowing 12 million to hide in the shadows and live in this country illegally is unacceptable. Our system must be fixed. Again, thank you for writing to me regarding this important issue. If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
Jaime
09-06 06:49 PM
Picture your freedom!
You are contributing a lot to your job, but are underapppreciated and underpaid. You have a business plan, venture capital and the ability to immediately start a business that will employ several Americans. You resign from your unfair employer. You go and start your business, and you start seeing it grow. Your spouse gets a new job, your children are about to go to college at a great school with in-state tuition. How is all this possible? Because you have a green card!
Are you going to give all of that up? Are you going to continue to be a minion at your company just because you are at the mercy of the unfair H1-B visa? Will you continue to put up with a situation that blocks the bigger contributions that you can make to this great country that you have already assimilated to? Will you let your children age out and not be eligible to remain at your side?
WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE, BUT ONLY IF WE UNITE AND GO TO THE RALLY! WE NEED 30,000, there's a million of us. WE CAN DO THIS GUYS!!!!!!!!! LET'S HELP EACH OTHER AND FIGHT FOR AND ACHIEVE OUR FREEDOM!!!!! THIS IS OUR BEST SHOT EVER! LET'S NOT WASTE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are contributing a lot to your job, but are underapppreciated and underpaid. You have a business plan, venture capital and the ability to immediately start a business that will employ several Americans. You resign from your unfair employer. You go and start your business, and you start seeing it grow. Your spouse gets a new job, your children are about to go to college at a great school with in-state tuition. How is all this possible? Because you have a green card!
Are you going to give all of that up? Are you going to continue to be a minion at your company just because you are at the mercy of the unfair H1-B visa? Will you continue to put up with a situation that blocks the bigger contributions that you can make to this great country that you have already assimilated to? Will you let your children age out and not be eligible to remain at your side?
WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE, BUT ONLY IF WE UNITE AND GO TO THE RALLY! WE NEED 30,000, there's a million of us. WE CAN DO THIS GUYS!!!!!!!!! LET'S HELP EACH OTHER AND FIGHT FOR AND ACHIEVE OUR FREEDOM!!!!! THIS IS OUR BEST SHOT EVER! LET'S NOT WASTE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
gcnotfiledyet
06-12 03:16 PM
Problems will not go away. Such incidents may happen elsewhere or in the same place.
If Air France was genuine they should have made everyone stay in the same place or atleast talk to theie department of immigration and arrange a temporary supervised visa and take all people to the hotel.
They just did not care
Can't agree with you more. Screw them and never fly with them. Then they will realize what it means. I don't see any issues with on spot transit visas in such circumstances. What if there was a terrorist attack on airport? They will still ask for transit visas for Indians to get outside airport? Best is avoid Europe at all costs and fly direct. Avoid any city in between including middle eastern cities.
If Air France was genuine they should have made everyone stay in the same place or atleast talk to theie department of immigration and arrange a temporary supervised visa and take all people to the hotel.
They just did not care
Can't agree with you more. Screw them and never fly with them. Then they will realize what it means. I don't see any issues with on spot transit visas in such circumstances. What if there was a terrorist attack on airport? They will still ask for transit visas for Indians to get outside airport? Best is avoid Europe at all costs and fly direct. Avoid any city in between including middle eastern cities.
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