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GCBy3000
07-18 10:11 AM
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
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mheggade
07-15 05:11 PM
Not sure I follow you. How are we getting 50K spill over visas?
How we are getting 50k is like this.
1) EB1 Over Flow (50% of EB1 was unused last year) 46k/2= 23k
2) EB2 Over Flow , this number is still fuzzy. But lets say around 10k.
3) EB2 India has quota of 3500.
So approx 40k.
How we are getting 50k is like this.
1) EB1 Over Flow (50% of EB1 was unused last year) 46k/2= 23k
2) EB2 Over Flow , this number is still fuzzy. But lets say around 10k.
3) EB2 India has quota of 3500.
So approx 40k.
amitjoey
05-19 03:35 PM
Thank you everybody that has contributed. We need to raise $50,000 in the next 15 days. That is $3334 raised every day. Now even though this looks like a big amount to raise, with a collective effort we can do this. This is our chance to make this happen for ourselves. The alternative is just staying in limbo renewing EAD/AP every two years for atleast the next 10 years. That is an average cost of $800 every two years every member.
We need 17 members everyday contributing $200 everyday or 34 members contributing $100 everyday for the next 15 days.
We need 17 members everyday contributing $200 everyday or 34 members contributing $100 everyday for the next 15 days.
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05-18 06:37 PM
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09-10 02:40 PM
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jambapamba
07-18 07:48 AM
I don't know the history of BigTime007 postings. Maybe he has said some things in the past that lead to the ban but his most recent post which got him banned seemed just like venting and nothing more.
What I do find annoying though is when ppl whose PD's are in 2006-2007 tell ppl rotting in BEC to "enjoy the ride". I have seen a few threads in the past where someone stuck in BEC was just venting and then ppl come along and tell them to "be happy for others". I don't get it. How is a person who is stuck for years, sees ppl with later cases get interim benefits, supposed to feel happy knowing they will still be stuck. :confused:
I think all these poor souls are looking for is a few words of sympathy and company of ppl in similiar situation (not very different from ppl complaining about retrogression mind you). If we can not do anything to help ppl stuck in those blackhole let's not rub salt into their wounds.
Lastly, regardless of whether you are stuck in BEC or expect to be stuck in retrogression for the next few years, there is no reason to be uncivil.
I didn't read bigtime* posts either...but if he was being uncivil to us who are filing...its not right. He has every right to be frustrated but being uncivil is not right.
What I do find annoying though is when ppl whose PD's are in 2006-2007 tell ppl rotting in BEC to "enjoy the ride". I have seen a few threads in the past where someone stuck in BEC was just venting and then ppl come along and tell them to "be happy for others". I don't get it. How is a person who is stuck for years, sees ppl with later cases get interim benefits, supposed to feel happy knowing they will still be stuck. :confused:
I think all these poor souls are looking for is a few words of sympathy and company of ppl in similiar situation (not very different from ppl complaining about retrogression mind you). If we can not do anything to help ppl stuck in those blackhole let's not rub salt into their wounds.
Lastly, regardless of whether you are stuck in BEC or expect to be stuck in retrogression for the next few years, there is no reason to be uncivil.
I didn't read bigtime* posts either...but if he was being uncivil to us who are filing...its not right. He has every right to be frustrated but being uncivil is not right.
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05-27 05:28 PM
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eb3_nepa
12-01 01:23 PM
SATYAGRAH is an Excellent idea.One day hunger strike near Capitol hill will give enough media attention ! I think it is legal to protest in a peacefull way. It is much better than rally ! I am ready to participate in SATYAGRAH in DC !
Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
Might wanna get a REALLY strong woolen shawl for the guy playing Gandhiji, if we're doing it in winter ;)
Just a question, how is this so called "Satyagragh" going to work? We fast and stand outside the white house protesting?
Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
Might wanna get a REALLY strong woolen shawl for the guy playing Gandhiji, if we're doing it in winter ;)
Just a question, how is this so called "Satyagragh" going to work? We fast and stand outside the white house protesting?
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dixie
07-17 11:45 PM
This clever trick isnt going to work forever. I understand a lot of you have already spent 8-9 years here waiting for a GC, but fresh H1-Bs like me fully know what the situation is and are mentally prepared with alternative plans for career advancement. Our strategy is to save like ants while here, make mimimal investments, apply for a GC and wait. If no reform is forthcoming, we will give up on the US as a long term option and head out much before we give the prime of our working careers to a dead-end job in this country.
If a majority of the H1-Bs do that, what will the tech companies do ? They will be forced to send more jobs to our home countries. Come on, you cannot do all your work with fresh-off-the-boat H1Bs .. experience will always be needed. If they cannot get those experienced folks here, the jobs will simply go where we are (and will get done for an even lower price of course).It is already happening; retrogression will only accelerate it. Such a situation effectively amounts to training foreign workers, paying them and sending them home. It is a no-brainer who the real loser is in such a bargain : yes, it is us in the short term, but ultimately the US economy will pay a price.
Current immigration policy is based on the assumption that our home countries will forever remain poor, and the US will have a never-ending stream of smart, hard-working people desperate to settle here. In a globalized world, that is fast becoming outdated.Sooner congress realises the better.
Let us fact it. We need GCs and we have waited for x years. Now that only seems to be illusion that may happen some day, many years from now. Have we contributed to this country. Yes in many folds.
Will the US govt provide relief. Probably not. They will certainly
raise H1bs as they need more contributors to SS. All this SKIL etc is just to keep us going for a few more years. After a few more years, many will give up, but get used to living the way we live now. We just wont have the energy to complain. After a while it is human nature, at least in most cases to accept. If we accept we will continue here hoping, some day GC will happen. I believe the majority will fall into this category. There maybe a few who will leave. But then there will be thousand more new H1b coming in to do the work, chasing the GC illusion, contributing to SS, buying cars, paying rents keeping the economy going. The lawyers will make money. Employers will get indentured workers. The economy will benefit from their productivity. So all concerned except you and me will be OK.
They understand the circle of life better than you and I do. It is about time we understand this. Once this sinks in, we will make the right choice, whet ever that maybe.
If a majority of the H1-Bs do that, what will the tech companies do ? They will be forced to send more jobs to our home countries. Come on, you cannot do all your work with fresh-off-the-boat H1Bs .. experience will always be needed. If they cannot get those experienced folks here, the jobs will simply go where we are (and will get done for an even lower price of course).It is already happening; retrogression will only accelerate it. Such a situation effectively amounts to training foreign workers, paying them and sending them home. It is a no-brainer who the real loser is in such a bargain : yes, it is us in the short term, but ultimately the US economy will pay a price.
Current immigration policy is based on the assumption that our home countries will forever remain poor, and the US will have a never-ending stream of smart, hard-working people desperate to settle here. In a globalized world, that is fast becoming outdated.Sooner congress realises the better.
Let us fact it. We need GCs and we have waited for x years. Now that only seems to be illusion that may happen some day, many years from now. Have we contributed to this country. Yes in many folds.
Will the US govt provide relief. Probably not. They will certainly
raise H1bs as they need more contributors to SS. All this SKIL etc is just to keep us going for a few more years. After a few more years, many will give up, but get used to living the way we live now. We just wont have the energy to complain. After a while it is human nature, at least in most cases to accept. If we accept we will continue here hoping, some day GC will happen. I believe the majority will fall into this category. There maybe a few who will leave. But then there will be thousand more new H1b coming in to do the work, chasing the GC illusion, contributing to SS, buying cars, paying rents keeping the economy going. The lawyers will make money. Employers will get indentured workers. The economy will benefit from their productivity. So all concerned except you and me will be OK.
They understand the circle of life better than you and I do. It is about time we understand this. Once this sinks in, we will make the right choice, whet ever that maybe.
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gaz
03-05 09:44 AM
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOmbudsman_RR_2_Streamlining_Employment_Based_Im migrant_Processing_USCIS_Response_04-27-06.pdf
"On April 27, 2004, the Ombudsman sent an information request to USCIS for a breakdown of data for pending employment-based applications for adjustment of status to be broken down by preference classification, priority date and country of chargeability. This request attempted to reflect similar data contained within the Immigration Annual Statistical Handbook, Chart 5, for completed cases. The Ombudsman’s interest in pending employment-based workload is in part a reflection of the broader issue relating to USCIS’ ability to support the Department of State in accurately forecasting immigrant visa requirements and the visa issuance process."
"This update will enable USCIS to identify 100% of the pending employment-based visa cases. It is anticipated that this exercise will be completed by April 28, 2006. Once this exercise is complete, USCIS will be able to extract data relating to the priority date, country of chargeability and preference classification. USCIS has already entered into discussions with the Department of State to provide this detailed information not only for pending workload but for visa regressed cases as well to allow DOS to accurately manage future visa allocations in regressed workloads."
[updated]
http://www.aila.org/content/fileviewer.aspx?docid=22650&linkid=162315
so are we getting anything different from what the ombudsman has already requested (and received?)
"On April 27, 2004, the Ombudsman sent an information request to USCIS for a breakdown of data for pending employment-based applications for adjustment of status to be broken down by preference classification, priority date and country of chargeability. This request attempted to reflect similar data contained within the Immigration Annual Statistical Handbook, Chart 5, for completed cases. The Ombudsman’s interest in pending employment-based workload is in part a reflection of the broader issue relating to USCIS’ ability to support the Department of State in accurately forecasting immigrant visa requirements and the visa issuance process."
"This update will enable USCIS to identify 100% of the pending employment-based visa cases. It is anticipated that this exercise will be completed by April 28, 2006. Once this exercise is complete, USCIS will be able to extract data relating to the priority date, country of chargeability and preference classification. USCIS has already entered into discussions with the Department of State to provide this detailed information not only for pending workload but for visa regressed cases as well to allow DOS to accurately manage future visa allocations in regressed workloads."
[updated]
http://www.aila.org/content/fileviewer.aspx?docid=22650&linkid=162315
so are we getting anything different from what the ombudsman has already requested (and received?)
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iwantlabor
06-14 08:54 AM
Good news for some and not so good news for others. I have been waiting for my labor for last 4 years and have still not got the approval on hand. So I am not ready to apply for 485. Where as a friend of mine who came to US last year and applied for labor through perm 2 months back has his approved labor and can apply for 485. I feel this is kind of unfair. The dates should have progressed slowly but steadily instead of trying to create a mad rush now.
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gonecrazyonh4
03-16 02:28 PM
I agree with you. Why are we penalised for being on H4 Visa ?
Most people on H4 Visas are well educated and would easily be able to contribute to american economy. We are lawabiding and can give so much to american economy. All our talents are wasted and skills are rotting sitting around for the backlog centers to clear the LC's and for retrogression to end.Meanwhile we practically have no life and are completely dependant .
Immigration Voice should try to include the greviances of H4 spuses into consideration.
Most people on H4 Visas are well educated and would easily be able to contribute to american economy. We are lawabiding and can give so much to american economy. All our talents are wasted and skills are rotting sitting around for the backlog centers to clear the LC's and for retrogression to end.Meanwhile we practically have no life and are completely dependant .
Immigration Voice should try to include the greviances of H4 spuses into consideration.
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rdoib
07-17 10:18 PM
people with earlier priority dates who are able to file/not file for I-485 at this time wont be effected much with people with recent priority dates who file their AOS remember while getting IN u may multiple doors ..exit is only one and ordered
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Totoro
01-26 03:37 PM
Well it seems the idea to get a Stimulus for 2008 for people having spouses with ITIN is nearing dead end (no action). Now the government is planning another stimulus. I think we should work on taking the necessary steps to prevent the same happening this year (being dropped out). I think we should raise awareness and write to all people including President Obama.
Ideas / comments?
The problem is, that for all my efforts, people just don't seem to care. The only reason I had any success was the embarrassment I caused the government because of all the soldiers who were excluded. Immigrants in the US are viewed by most people as an unwanted scourge.
My employer has also been no help at all. I have been looking for work outside of the US, but unfortunately, the economic situation makes that a bit more challenging. Sorry if I sound pessimistic. That is just my personal experience.
Ideas / comments?
The problem is, that for all my efforts, people just don't seem to care. The only reason I had any success was the embarrassment I caused the government because of all the soldiers who were excluded. Immigrants in the US are viewed by most people as an unwanted scourge.
My employer has also been no help at all. I have been looking for work outside of the US, but unfortunately, the economic situation makes that a bit more challenging. Sorry if I sound pessimistic. That is just my personal experience.
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06-04 07:45 AM
The U.S. Department of Labor today announced that it has begun auditing all permanent labor certification applications filed by attorneys at Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy LLP. The department has information indicating that in at least some cases the firm improperly instructed clients who filed permanent labor certification applications to contact their attorney before hiring apparently qualified U.S. workers. The audits will determine which, if any, applications should be denied or placed into department-supervised recruitment because of improper attorney involvement in the consideration of U.S. worker applicants.
http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/eta20080752.htm
http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/eta20080752.htm
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nonimmi
03-20 03:30 PM
Considering a new labor is approved in EB2 (through same or different employer), can another I-140 be filed with older EB3 PD? In that case what happens to already filed I-485 application (EB3)? Can it be adjusted with new I-140 in EB2? I was wondering if anyone has done that.
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06-25 04:37 PM
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meridiani.planum
09-13 12:52 AM
Obama is no panacea either. Why do you think someone with little experience is a liability to be second in command, but the same lack of experience is admirable quality for the first in command.
Also, Obama has been changing his positions on issues to pander to the voters, I doubt he will be any different from Bush either. The only change you are going to see is in himself -- not the way things are done. He will probably pay more of the tax monies to people who gambled with their houses (and are still not being punished for it).
Obama's lack of experience does not bother me as much as Palins because you have to see what people have done in whatever experience they have had. Obama did community service, has had a strong moral fiber in whatever he has said. Palin has already abused whatever little power she had. Being a senator Obama has atleast been exposed to world-wide issues. I bet Palin cant even locate Georgia on the map. Did you see her recent interview? In spite of it being carefully staged, see her stumble aimlessly when it comes to the question of the Bush Doctrine... The biggest foreign policy change this country made (decision to make pre-emptive attacks) and Palin does not have an opinion on it because she does not even know what it is. The interviewer had to tell her what teh Bush Doctrine is all about. Are'nt you scared of a person like that leading the US? Why does this country always pick screwed up vice presidents (Dick Cheney's approval ratings have been <30% for as long as I can recall)
Either way, from an immigration point of view (focus of this forum) we are screwed (see my previous post for stances of both presidential candidates)
Also, Obama has been changing his positions on issues to pander to the voters, I doubt he will be any different from Bush either. The only change you are going to see is in himself -- not the way things are done. He will probably pay more of the tax monies to people who gambled with their houses (and are still not being punished for it).
Obama's lack of experience does not bother me as much as Palins because you have to see what people have done in whatever experience they have had. Obama did community service, has had a strong moral fiber in whatever he has said. Palin has already abused whatever little power she had. Being a senator Obama has atleast been exposed to world-wide issues. I bet Palin cant even locate Georgia on the map. Did you see her recent interview? In spite of it being carefully staged, see her stumble aimlessly when it comes to the question of the Bush Doctrine... The biggest foreign policy change this country made (decision to make pre-emptive attacks) and Palin does not have an opinion on it because she does not even know what it is. The interviewer had to tell her what teh Bush Doctrine is all about. Are'nt you scared of a person like that leading the US? Why does this country always pick screwed up vice presidents (Dick Cheney's approval ratings have been <30% for as long as I can recall)
Either way, from an immigration point of view (focus of this forum) we are screwed (see my previous post for stances of both presidential candidates)
ghost
07-10 12:30 PM
Your post shows your ignorance on how things work on the capitol hill. SKIL was introduced on thursday June 29, 2006 in the house.
The congress was in recess (on the field) the entire last week. So effectively they were in the house for ONE day. What updates do you expect in this time?
I'm sorry to say but there is no reason for you to be in IV if you have no belief in them. So, stop posting divisive messages and get the hell out of here. That's the least you can do for our cause.
Don't you guys think there is no spark anymore in IV? Have you heard anything incourging from IV lately? Where is QGC or whatever there name is? Where is money?
Many many times members asked for update once in a while, but what u got , nothing.
Come one guys, stop dreaming.
The congress was in recess (on the field) the entire last week. So effectively they were in the house for ONE day. What updates do you expect in this time?
I'm sorry to say but there is no reason for you to be in IV if you have no belief in them. So, stop posting divisive messages and get the hell out of here. That's the least you can do for our cause.
Don't you guys think there is no spark anymore in IV? Have you heard anything incourging from IV lately? Where is QGC or whatever there name is? Where is money?
Many many times members asked for update once in a while, but what u got , nothing.
Come one guys, stop dreaming.
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